UPDATE: Here it is five months after Roberts death in April 08,07 the government is still delaying on releasing any findings, obviously looking for a way out to pass blame I think. There was a meeting hear in Kamloops back in Nov 07 discussing what happened to Robert and what could be done. I had said that in a year Robert will be all but forgotten to the public like all the others such as Ian Bush. Hear it is less than six months and things are back to normal pretty much. Ian Bush's family has not been given any closure either, as the officer was let off scott free.
The system is geared for people to forget, they figure as time goes by and people's anger fades, cover ups occur, information blocked, the government can get away with anything with no accountability.
This type of government is called an an Oligarchy, which is what rules the world today.
08 update; Now we hear that the government is not going to fund the lawyer for the family, Zofia has to battle alone, it is all she can do to get out of bed each day let alone take on four different levels of government trying to cover up the ignorance of our system.
Lawyer in airport Taser incident raps lack of funding for him at inquest
By THE CANADIAN PRESS
KAMLOOPS, B.C. - The Kamloops lawyer representing the mother of a Polish man who died after being stunned by a police Taser at Vancouver airport says he's been denied funding to participate in a coroner's inquest into the death.
Walter Kostecky says the B.C. Solicitor General's Ministry has cited an existing policy of not providing financial assistance at coroner's inquests.
But Kostecky says the death of Robert Dziekanski is an extreme case with a profound public interest and where the other parties, including the RCMP and Canada Border Services, are well funded.
"Every other party that's involved in this is funded in some way through the public purse: the (Vancouver) airport authority, the Canadian Border Services and the RCMP," he said. "Certainly all of their lawyers are going to be paid."
Dziekanski died last October after Mounties used a Taser on him when he became agitated after spending hours in the airport arrivals areas trying to find his mother, who'd driven from Kamloops to pick him up.
Kostecky says Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, is still under a doctor's care and unable to work.
"Mrs. Cisowski, who has been rendered psychologically damaged as a result of the incident, she has no way of being able to fund a law firm to be able to attend to present her case," he said.
The inquest, one of several investigations into the death, has tentatively been set for early May.
RCMP brass has spent a lot of time recently assuring Canadians that its members use Taser stun guns judiciously and only when necessary.
That claim would be easier to believe had the force not begun to withhold information on the forms its members are required to fill out whenever a Taser is used.
An investigation by The Canadian Press and the CBC found the RCMP is holding back important details about the use of Tasers at a time when the Canadian public has become less than comfortable with the police's use of the 50,000-volt devices to subdue suspects.
As reported this week, Taser use has increased dramatically in the past two years to more than 1,000 annually, compared to about 600 in 2005.
The increase feeds the public perception that the RCMP has become overly reliant on the Taser, a belief that climaxed with the videotaped Tasering and death of Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport last fall.
That incident, viewed around the world, underlined how easily things can go wrong with the Taser and flew in the face of the force's claim that it uses the device only as a next-to-last resort.
Canadian police forces, meantime, argue Tasers have saved 4,000 lives since they started using them in 2001. Apparently they feel this gives them carte blanche to whip them out at their whim.
And they feel it's OK to hold back vital information surrounding their use.
From the Maher Arar scandal to Taser use and shooting deaths of civilians, to controversy and mismanagement at its highest levels, Canadians have seen the image of one their most revered institutions smudged.
When the public's confidence in the RCMP has arguably never been lower, this is no time to be keeping secrets.
Credit: The Prince George Citizen
A fifth grader could tell you we need camera's in every part of the RCMP detachment 24/7 with public access, for if it wasn't for a private citizen we would have never known the truth....what are you guys hiding?....maybe...the truth of Ian Bush, because of the lack of a camera only rooky Constable Koester and God know what happened to Ian. How many more times are we going to let this happen? If there had been camera's in the holding cells at that time Robert's death may not have happened as we would have rallied around Ian's Family the way we are Robert's. Small one man detachments in rural towns should definitely have camera's and in this day and age we should have it broadcasted 24/7 online.
The word through the grape vine(talking to respectable officer's) is that hiearchy can't control or refuses to sufficiently reprimand the young cops that over step the line.this is practically the case all across Canada as story's of officer's over stepping the law go's practically unpunished. to me this is Creating the illusion that these new bread of cops are untouchable and can do what ever they want to the citizens basically giving them a licence to bully and kill whom ever when ever. It was explained to me that many officer's have the attitude that the tazer is like a toy and can be used on a victim at the slightest sign of non compliance to a simple verbal order like "take your shoes off". Unfortunately the good officer's who have respect and understanding are out number' d and are in no position of authority to do anything, and if they speak out their pension is at risk from high up in the ranks....WTF??...the top-cops in Canada robbed the pension funds like a thief in the night...and the sons of bitches are still walking free in the street today! If you or I had done such a thing we'd be thrown in jail for 20 years! Is that justice!!! Are WE to live in fear of our own police force???
When are we going to say enough is enough???
There are some good officer's out there..the difference between the good and the bad is the good ones know if they give respect they get respect. They realize that every body makes mistakes, many people are struggling and aren't perfect but are far from any threat to any one. The officer talks nicely and explains why he should maybe try harder the next time.For a smart good officer knows that even by ticketing or what ever official action he takes, it effects some one, it goes on permanent records, and if struggling citizens or even ordinary citizens loose say their license, it effects every thing in that persons life from family to work, to how one feels about the police....that in turn effects the relationship with the child in the family and maybe his marriage....or loose the house if he can't make payments, cause he cant' get to work, or his business or work can't be done with out a license....it goes on and on. So like I said, there are plenty of good officer's out there, cause I've met them...so lets not group them all as assholes at this point and lets focus on the problems with certain individuals and also the people in charge and getting changes made.
The RCMP is like one big family...except for it's one of those dysfunctional families like the father's a drunk, thief and murderer and the mother's a whore, so the younglings grow up with out any respect or knowledge of how to treat other's, doomed to a life of ignorance. It is those high up in the chain of command that are really to blame...for to long there have been cover up after cover up...assaults,murders. Lack of discipline has led to every jerk with a control complex lining up to join the force.
CALENDAR OF EVENTS:
dec 2nd 2007...well things did not go as well as expected but there was measured
success...the main problem being -15 weather dam! it was cold but the core group consisted of four of us dwindling down to three hard cores :) with supporters doing the drive by(better than the cities public open house)....our demands are simple;
1- changes in the way police govern n' investigate them selves .
2- proper reprimands, re evaluation, re training, relocation for problematic officer's.
3- minimums before contact to de escalate situations before physical contact
4- physical contact rules...duh gee George...no blows to the head, no restricting air ways,
no jumping on chests, no tasering except in extreme cases yah think?
5-changes in the justice system for harsher penalties for some and less for other's
6-victim's rights to information, & fair prosecution to those responsible for the crime
7-camera's in every part of the cop shop, at all times with easy public access.
8- respect for average citizens struggling to make ends meet. lay off the constant road
blocks, get ICBC out of manipulating the system for their benefit.
9-Monuments built in remembrance in Houston for Ian & one in Van airport for Robert
to remind RCMP that humanity and humility are one in the same.
10-DO NOT TAZER MORE THAN ONCE!....duh!!!, non of the media, inquests, investigations, the manufacturer have even mentioned let alone questioned tasering a victim more than once, obviously it will increase the risk of damage and risk of death. Let's see one of their volunteers get tazered multiple times, like at least five times!
It's obvious to any moron that tazering coupled with extreme anxiety due to confrontation plus extreme violence, drug or alcohol abuse also creates a extreme risk of the heart stopping. Then they make the risk even higher by tazering people multiple times while their having a anxiety attack.
My inexperience was probably the biggest factor as media and contact information was limited, notice of only a day was also kind a bad ( admittedly I was paranoid of police...who isn't these days to some degree)....BUT we had fun,we made our statement, and we did it.....when one says one will do something one doe's it as honor is what we live by...I couldn't watch that video of Robert and do nothing. This is only the beginning, stay tuned ;)
questions or comments can be directed to
also check this out http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fae_1195587967 (copy'n paste)
blow your freaking mind how society is moving towards a police state.
Look at some of these recent police cover ups:
www.sudden death[the police murder of Ian Bush from Houston B.C].com
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also check this out http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fae_1195587967 (copy'n paste)
blow your freaking mind how society is moving towards a police state.
Jan 2011 update;
The madness continues, years have passed and the memories along with any hope of justice for victims families such as Ian Bush and and Robert fade, tyranny grows as there have been an endless flow of unaccountability and acts of dishonor within the mighty RCMP since then aswell. We the people question the intension's of bureaucrats and hierarchy agents as new :police state" laws are usurped on the citizens all across Canada, bring in to question the very fabric of freedom in Canada. Tis a sad day.
Dec 25/09 Update:
Hey gang, its been a couple of years since I updated this site, I emotionally couldn't handle posting details about Robert's case, it has made me and the people of BC sick to our stomach. Robert's case and Zofia's battle has been in the media so much, for all the world to see. Depressing, one disappointment after another, the lies, deceit, out right ignorance of RCMP top cops, and the growing list of rcmp officers who's actions define the rcmp, both on the job and off.
There is a list of rcmp members that keeps growing, these people on the list have committed horrible crimes against society's citizens with out reprimand or punishment leading other rcmp members to commit crimes in the future based on these precedence.
Best of the worst of Mountie misconduct
Posted: December 12, 2009, 10:14 AM by Daniel Kaszor
brian hutchinson, RCMP
In response to a National Post request for information, the RCMP’s Adjudications Directorate in Ottawa this week released 84 internal adjudication board decisions rendered across Canada from January 2008. The decisions rely on witness testimonies, admissions of fact and proof of misconduct, and include sanctions against individual Mounties. Brian Hutchinson summaries of 12 of the 84 adjudication board decisions and a summary of one decision under appeal
• HQ Division: Ottawa:
In September 2005, off-duty Constable Michael Dudas entered a McDonald’s restaurant drive-through lane and instigated an angry verbal exchange with three young pedestrians placing an order in front of him. In what an RCMP adjudication board called “a sudden and violent attack,” Const. Dudas left his truck, grabbed one of the young women and punched her in the face. She fell to the ground where she lay “bleeding profusely.” Four of her teeth were fractured as a result of the attack. The constable returned to his truck and left the scene without offering any assistance to his victim. He pleaded guilty in provincial court to common assault and received a suspended sentence with a one-year probation order. In June 2008 the RCMP adjudication board docked him 10 days pay. Const. Dudas remains on active duty in the National Capital Region.
• C Division: Montreal
In September 2006, a female passerby witnessed a constable openly masturbating in his unmarked police vehicle. The constable was supposed to be conducting surveillance in a counterfeiting investigation. According to a March 2009 RCMP adjudication board decision, the constable “simply smiled” at the passerby “and kept on masturbating.” The passerby called the municipal police. The constable received a summons to appear in court on the matter. “A diversion agreement was reached with the Crown Attorney of Quebec on the basis of psychological assessments,” says the adjudication board decision, adding that the constable was determined by doctors to be “fixated on auto-eroticism and compulsive masturbatory activity caused by stress.” The RCMP docked him 10 days pay and recommended that he receive professional counselling. He remains on active duty in Montreal.
• HQ Division: Ottawa
Civilian ballistics expert Stacey Chernowak admitted in April 2007 to manufacturing and possessing a submachine gun with silencer, and to importing and possessing a Chinese-made variant of an AK-47 automatic rifle, both prohibited firearms. The two weapons and 12 ammunition magazines were discovered housed in plastic tubes, in a wooded area near Sudbury, Ont. Mr. Chernowak also admitted to possessing seven unregistered firearms. The ballistics expert kept a total of 44 firearms inside his apartment. In April 2008, he pleaded guilty in court to five Criminal Code offences and received a conditional nine-month prison sentence. In November 2008, an RCMP adjudication board decision found that he had “considerable health problems, both mental and physical” and at times was suicidal. Mr. Chernowak was docked a total of 17 days pay and was recommended for transfer and continued professional counselling. He remains on active duty in the National Capital Region.
• E Division: Burnaby, B.C.
In June 2007, an off-duty constable collided his car into another vehicle, which flipped over and landed on its side. The driver of the second vehicle suffered a fractured collarbone. The constable did not offer the injured person assistance; instead, he drove home. On-duty RCMP officers attended his home and found him in a state of impairment. The constable attributed this to consumption of pain relief medication that contained alcohol. In March 2009, he was docked 10 days pay. He remains on active duty in the Lower Mainland.
• HQ Division: Ottawa
After drinking “a few beers” in a pub with another off-duty officer in October 2005, an inspector drove his Pontiac Sunfire onto a restricted access roadway reserved for public transit buses. An Ottawa transit officer directed him to pull over. The inspector flashed his RCMP badge at the officer and said, “I’m on the job.” The inspector was allowed to drive away. The transit officer then observed the Sunfire veering to the edge of the restricted roadway. He directed the inspector pull over again. The officer suspected the inspector was intoxicated and that he had lied about being “on the job.” Ottawa police were called and the inspector provided a breath sample, which indicated a “warn” for his blood alcohol level. The inspector’s driver’s license was suspended for 12 hours. He was sanctioned in August 2008 and docked five days pay. He remains on active duty in the National Capital Region.
(The inspector had previously admitted to seven allegations of disgraceful conduct while acting as officer in charge of the RCMP’s Montreal drug section. These related to sexual relations he had with female Mounties taking undercover courses while he was an instructor, and efforts he made to disrupt a subsequent investigation into the matter. He was sanctioned in 2004 and was suspended for 55 days. He was also docked 25 days pay and was barred from training undercover agents.)
• O Division: Niagara Falls
Over a six-month period in 2007, a sergeant made 53 cash advance withdrawals using his RCMP-issued American Express charge card. The unauthorized withdrawals were made at casinos and other gambling facilities in Canada and in the United States; 27 were made while the sergeant was on duty. In May 2007, an RCMP accounting services employee warned him not to make cash withdrawals for personal use. Ultimately he did not heed the warning.
In April 2008 he admitted to using the cash advances (approximately $4,900) to gamble. He also admitted that he used RCMP vehicles to attend casinos and other gambling establishments while on duty.
In a July 2008 adjudication board decision his sanction was forfeiture of eight days pay. It was not determined that the sergeant had effectively dealt with his “gambling problem,” the adjudication board advised. The sergeant was transferred to Vancouver where he is assigned to 2010 Olympic Winter Games security duty.
(Two other RCMP officers were sanctioned in 2008 for using RCMP-issued American Express cards to make unauthorized cash withdrawals and using the cash to gamble inside casinos. The most severe sanction was forfeiture of seven days pay.)
• D division: Saint Lazare, Man.
A forensics expert constable was called to help investigate a double homicide on August 25, 2007. After attending the scene she gave a primary investigator her investigation notes; these indicated that the murder weapon, a .22 caliber rifle, was found at the scene and that it was unloaded. The same day, the constable turned over the rifle to an exhibit custodian. It contained two live rounds of ammunition.
One week later, the constable produced notes from a second notebook. These indicated she had discovered one live round inside the rifle.
The constable’s superior questioned her about the blatant discrepancy and asked why she had used two notebooks. The constable lied that her first notebook had been contaminated with blood at the murder scene.
The constable then turned over her first notebook to an exhibit custodian. It was smeared with red paint. She eventually agreed that she smeared the red paint on her first notebook “to simulate dried blood.” In January 2009 she accepted a voluntary removal from her position as a forensics expert. She also accepted a transfer.
• HQ Division: Ottawa
On October 11, 2007 Constable Guy Jacques abandoned his security unit post at Rideau Hall and left Governor-General Michaëlle Jean and her family without an RCMP security presence. Const. Jacques left Rideau Hall in an RCMP vehicle and played hockey for one hour. He then drove to a cemetery, then a hospital and later disrupted and caused the delay of a Gatineau Police Service surveillance and search operation by driving through a targeted area “about 20 times.” In a separate infraction, Const. Jacques used his RCMP-issued cellphone to make personal long-distance calls to his girlfriend, friends and family members. He was sanctioned in April 2009 and was docked a total of seven days pay. He remains on active duty in the National Capital Region.
• K Division: Picture Butte, Alta.
In May 2005, the constable left a threatening voicemail for his estranged wife, an emergency room nurse who lived with their disabled daughter and their son. In his message, the constable said “today is the first time I have woken up without wanting to kill you,” or words to that effect. He also harassed his estranged wife by text-messaging her incessantly over an eight-month period. The constable was found to have made inappropriate police computer queries about his estranged wife and about individuals associated with her. In June 2008, the constable was docked a total of 21 days pay and it was recommended that he seek professional counselling. He now works from the Gleichen, Alta detachment.
• E Division: Lower Mainland, B.C.
While on vacation with his family in June 2007, a constable entered a hospital in Washington state and asked for prescription drugs used for anxiety and panic disorders. He refused to identify himself to hospital staff. He said he worked for the Government of Canada and was involved with international anti-terrorism enforcement. The constable said if he did not leave the hospital with prescription drugs he would miss a meeting. In that case, he said, “buildings could be blown up and other bad things could happen.”
Staff found him to be very confused and perhaps intoxicated. When local police arrived to deal with him, the constable identified himself. He was released into the care of his brother.
Two days later in Surrey, B.C., the constable knocked on a woman’s door and identified himself as an RCMP officer. His head was bleeding and he was unsteady on his feet. He was also described as “sniffling and sneezing profusely.” He asked the woman a number of inappropriate questions about her house, including its value and its contents. The woman felt threatened by the constable. At a co-worker’s urging, she called police the following evening.
Both incidents were related to the constable’s addiction to prescription drugs including pain medication, an RCMP adjudication board decided in January 2009. He was ordered to forfeit four days pay and it was recommended that he continue to receive professional counselling. According to the adjudication board decision, “the member has recent prior discipline for similar conduct which also involved police intervention.” The constable remains on active duty in the Lower Mainland.
• E Division: Kugluktuk, Nunavut
Off-duty one day in September 2006, a constable drove around Kuglutuk in his RCMP cruiser, looking for an 11-year-old boy who had allegedly assaulted his nine-year-old stepson. The constable’s wife was also in the police vehicle, along with the stepson and an infant son. The 11-year-old was spotted and the constable’s wife left the cruiser and grabbed him. She then invited her son to punch the 11-year-old, which he did, striking him on his left cheek, his nose and his stomach. The 11-year-old was bloodied. The constable’s wife and her son returned to the police cruiser and the constable drove away without offering assistance to his wife’s assault victim. In 2007, the constable’s wife pleaded guilty in court to assault; the constable was not charged. In March 2008, an RCMP adjudication board sanctioned the constable. He was docked four days pay. He remains on active duty.
• E Division: North Vancouver
While on duty over four days in September 2002, two constables exchanged dozens of offensive messages using RCMP mobile workstations. The messages contained profanities, sexually explicit comments, disparaging comments about co-workers, a desire to use improper force and one racially insensitive comment. One exchange referred to sex with goats. During a relevant time period, one of the constables was training an RCMP cadet. An adjudication board decision in 2004 ordered the members to resign; otherwise, they would be dismissed. Both members appealed and in 2006 then-RCMP commissioner Giuliano Zaccardelli dismissed their appeals. The Federal Court of Canada ordered the commissioner’s decision set aside and more adjudication board hearings took place. In January 2009, both members were sanctioned and each was docked 10 days pay. Both members had received prior informal discipline. They remain on active duty in the Lower Mainland.
• E Division: Lower Mainland, B.C.
In February 2005, a constable attended a Super Bowl party at a suburban Vancouver residence. According to an RCMP adjudication board decision written in January 2009, the constable had sexual intercourse with an unconscious adult woman who had been drugged at the party. The board determined this was a sexual assault.
In the investigation process the constable acknowledged that what he did was wrong and was an infidelity but he denied it was an assault. He claimed the intercourse was consensual and that the woman was conscious while it transpired. The adjudication board rejected this. There was no consent. “She had been drugged … His decision to take advantage of a woman in this state demonstrates a fundamental flaw in his character that renders him unfit to perform the duties of a police officer,” the board found.
The board described the constable as an alcoholic attached to the RCMP’s Greater Vancouver Drug Section. The board noted that according to his supervisor, the constable’s “struggle with alcohol addiction … has never affected his work.” The board added that he has taken steps to address his addiction and that “he is not the man he was in February 2006 … His one act of misconduct, however, is so serious that he cannot be retained as a member.”
The constable was ordered to resign from the RCMP; otherwise he would be dismissed. The constable has appealed the order to RCMP Commissioner William Elliott. He remains suspended with pay.
National Post
There is an oath that officers take when they join the force:
Here's the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics in black and white~
"As a Law Enforcement Officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property; to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder; and to respect the Constitutional rights of all persons to liberty, equality and justice.
I will keep my private life unsullied as an example to all; maintain courageous calm in the face of danger, scorn or ridicule; develop self-restraint; and be constantly mindful of the welfare of others. Honest in thought and deed in both my personal and official life, I will be exemplary in obeying the laws of the land and the regulations of my department. Whatever I see or hear of a confidential nature or that is confided to me in my official capacity will be kept ever secret unless revelation is necessary in the performance of my duty.
I will never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminal, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.
I recognize the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith, and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of the police service. I will constantly strive to achieve these objectives and ideals, dedicating myself before God to my chosen profession...law enforcement. "
I think it's self explaintory....
Time to demand justice!
In fact police officer are not "Law Enforcement" officer but essentially "Peace" officers" and are to be keeping the peace, and as such are not legally allowed to arrest or harass law abiding citizens for minor infractions.